SPN Ep: Hunteri Heroici

[the_other_sandy]

Sibs, I think we just met today's special friend.

Sorry about that. I feel like a bad fangirl for not commenting in detail on the extensive Warner Bros. cartoon references, but honestly there were too many to keep track of and I am essentially very lazy. I did have to mention the Animaniacs shout-out though, because in addition to the entire Chuck Jones era of Warner Bros. cartoons, I also loved Animaniacs. And Wacko and Sam could totally bond over their mutual clownophobia.

Speaking of Sam, the show made sure to link Sam's Amelia flashbacks to someone mentioning living in a dream world no less than four times. Do you think that could mean something? ;-) I already knew something was up with the Amelia flashbacks. The question is, did Sam generate that dream world for himself, or did someone do that to him? Because if Sam disappeared into a dream world that he created for himself, he really sucks at it. I know my little fantasy daydreams don't involve people verbally abusing me.

It was nice to see the boys getting along, no matter how brief that interlude may turn out to be. And the first thing they've agreed on in a long time is that Castiel doesn't get to call shotgun.

I also liked Castiel's attempt at being a hunter, mostly because it gave the boys an excuse to use their smarty brains. Castiel was all about Gary's recent bladder infection, while both Sam and Dean spotted that Gary was having an affair. I also liked that Dean made Castiel watch Sam to learn interviewing skills. But how is anyone in the world buying Sam as an FBI agent right now? That is so not a regulation haircut. Of course, pretty much everybody manages to overlook their screamingly obvious aliases too, so I guess the Winchesters have their own area of effect.

P.S. -- Hey, queeberquabbler, Castiel said "shenanigans!" You should make him his own sign.

Comments

[viridian5.livejournal.com]

When Dean got Castiel talking about heaven, I had a moment of "Wait, people talking out their problems and sharing important information like adults? What show am I watching?"

My dad, of course, phoned me during the episode to say, "Fred is BJ from MASH!" That was five minutes after I hung up my phone call to him to make sure he was watching and have a mutual laugh over Castiel interrogating a cat who thinks he's a dumbass.

Sam, if that's your dreamworld, you are one sad individual. I had a massive and probably mean laugh over the "Don is alive!" moment. Wah wah.

[queeberquabbler.livejournal.com]

When Dean got Castiel talking about heaven, I had a moment of "Wait, people talking out their problems and sharing important information like adults? What show am I watching?"

LMAO! It's funny cuz it's true. I had the same reaction!

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

When Dean got Castiel talking about heaven, I had a moment of "Wait, people talking out their problems and sharing important information like adults? What show am I watching?"

Now if only we could get Sam and Dean to do that and have it stick.

Sam, if that's your dreamworld, you are one sad individual.

We've seen that before though, with Hallucifer telling Sam that "It had to be a mess, Sam, or you wouldn't believe it was your life."

[viridian5.livejournal.com]

But this is pathetic even for Sam!

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

Sam doesn't really wear his mental health issues on his sleeve like Dean does, but he's just as messed up.

[and-ed.livejournal.com]

Okay, I have been so busy 'do not want'-ing over Sam's Amelia flashbacks that I have not stopped to ponder the possibility that I'm supposed to be thinking that and that Sam's dreamt that whole world up somehow. But now that I see it spelled out here, I'm all...d'oh. That makes SO much more sense that way and I hope you are right. Though you have another excellent point in that you'd think he'd of dreamed up something nicer.

Other than the Sam flashbacks, though, I loved this one, cheesiness and all. =)

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

The more I think about it, the more this idea is sticking with me. I'd already noticed some Dean in Amelia in her flannel shirts and recreational drinking. Now we have Amelia's dad opening beer bottles the same way Dean does and Sam commenting on it. And there was an episode where Sam's shirt was the exact same color and pattern as Amelia's motel room wallpaper. I really don't think Sam's flashbacks are him straight-up remembering things that happened with Amelia.

[and-ed.livejournal.com]

Belatedly clearing out the inbox and I realized I'd missed this comment. I'm glad I caught it now, though, because holy attention to detail, Batman. That's so awesome and yeah, no way all that is coincidental. I need to go rewatch all that stuff. I also apparently need to focus on other stuff besides Sam's hair. ;)

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

I think Sam's shirt matching Amelia's wallpaper was in "Blood Brother." It was definitely at the end; I don't remember about the rest of the episode. I know I commented on it on somebody's LJ and that person went back and posted a cap of that scene, but I can't find it now.

[queeberquabbler.livejournal.com]

OMG, when Cas said "Shenanigans" i literally jumped off the couch, wheee! SO HAPPY!

I have so much to write in my own post, which I'll do after this, but I wanted to say that I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who picked up on the "living in a dream" thing in regards to Sam and Amelia. On the one hand, they probably just meant it allegorically, with Sam thinking he could ever have a normal life truly being just a dream. But i would LOVE if it was something more literal. Hmm!

Now to tabulate as many of the Warner Bros refs I can remember. And yay, another Animaniacs fan! Or should I say faboo? :) ::high-fives::

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

they probably just meant it allegorically, with Sam thinking he could ever have a normal life truly being just a dream

I thought so too at first, but they linked one of the flashbacks to the orderly talking about how some of the elderly residents run and hide in their own heads, which made me think it might all be more literal than that.

Plus, I've been noticing some of Dean's traits in Amelia, and now Sam commented on how Amelia's dad opens beer bottles the same way Dean does. And remember the ep where Sam's shirt was an exact match for Amelia's motel room wallpaper?

I'm just having a hard time believing that the Amelia flashbacks are straight-up memories of things that happened.

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

Because if Sam disappeared into a dream world that he created for himself, he really sucks at it. I know my little fantasy daydreams don't involve people verbally abusing me.

Well Sam's Lucifer hallucination told Sam that if the world was good, Sam wouldn't believe it was real in Hello Cruel World. Amelia may well be vocalizing Sam's insecurities. He hit the dog, now he needs to take care of it and not consider himself a hero equals he let Lucifer out and fixing it doesn't make him a hero. Sam looks like a creepy serial killer equals Sam IS a serial killer of monsters and he doesn't look the way he dreamed of much of his life(and Bela described hunters as sociopathic serial killers in season 3). Sam's hallucinations have never been perfect. He has never had a WIAWSNB episode where he was happy and felt good about himself. So an abusive Amelia lets him deal with his own insecurities. Better yet, as Amelia accepts him, he is in turn accepting that although he is broken, he isn't that bad of a person.

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

Well Sam's Lucifer hallucination told Sam that if the world was good, Sam wouldn't believe it was real in Hello Cruel World.

Thank you! I remember Hallucifer saying that, but I couldn't remember which episode. I was going to try to look it up tonight, but now I don't have to. *\0/*

Better yet, as Amelia accepts him, he is in turn accepting that although he is broken, he isn't that bad of a person.

On the other hand, as Amelia came to accept him, Amelia's dad showed up to crap all over him, so maybe he's not making as much progress as all that. ;-)