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Was it just me, or did the writers have a checklist for this episode?

Things to do in episode 7:

● Bring back a popular guest character people have been asking for for two years

● Get Max off his cane

● Tell Mary that Doris is still alive

Done!

Not that I'm complaining. I liked Toast. Also it was really stretching plausibility that Max was still using the cane and that Mary still didn't know about Doris when we're this far into the season.

It's kind of a bummer that this episode was so light on character moments after how awesome the last two episodes were. The best part (for us anyway, not so much for Chin) was Chin getting all shaky when Kono was being held hostage. Aside from feeling guilty for sending her there (not that he had any way of knowing that was going to happen), he's clearly still grieving Malia's death and just could not face losing someone else close to him so soon.

Plus, Danny continues his BAMFy ways, Kono teaches special forces douchebags that kidnapping her is a bad idea, and Doris continues to annoy me.

Oh, and P.S., Show, we're totally on to you. You have gone to the 'Five-0 loses one of their own' well one too many times in your teasers. We all know it's going to be a very peripheral character (in this case, a random HPD officer) and no longer get worked up about the possibility of something happening to one of the Core Four. Although after reading the summary in the TV listings about the murder of a hacker, I'm just glad they didn't kill off Toast.

Date: 2012-11-20 05:11 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] superbadgirl
superbadgirl: (kono fierce)
The preview was laughable, because you could totally tell Doris was sobbing at the cemetery. The setting wasn't hard to suss out.

Poor Chin. I have a feeling when he cracks completely open it's not going to be good.

I'd call this ep a solid fluff piece. It was good to see Kono kick ass (though I love that no one questions it from her while jumping on the "prove Cath has training for this!" train in the season opener...), which somewhat made up for the odd twinkly music and she's-a-woman-she-can-reach-the-austistic-boy moments that went with it.

Date: 2012-11-21 12:35 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com
The thing about Kono is that they established her as a BAMF from her very first scene when she decked the guy who stole her wave. At that point, all we knew about her was that she could surf and throw a punch. With Catherine, we had 2 full seasons of her sitting behind a control panel on a ship pushing buttons before she started kicking ass all of a sudden. So, yeah, I think an explanation for Catherine's BAMFitude would not be amiss. Or particularly hard to come up with if the writers wanted to throw in the effort.

And while I don't question Kono's hand-to-hand ability, I would still like an explanation of where her sniper skills came from. She didn't get that good just attending the police academy.

Date: 2012-11-21 12:44 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] superbadgirl
superbadgirl: (cath)
Hmm, I'll have to disagree re: Cath. I mean, just last week we learned a whole bunch of stuff we never knew about Danny before, but just because we didn't know it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Er, in the context of a fictional backstory.

I dunno. There are just a lot of reasons for a woman to know and be good at martially arts kind of stuff, especially one career military, even if she is more of a desk jockey. Self-defense, for a start. I don't see a reason for an explanation. Besides, while we saw Kono's badassery right from the start, she was a professional surfer. How does she know all the moves she does - they don't look like police academy training...

I'll stop now. ;)

Date: 2012-11-21 12:50 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com
just because we didn't know it doesn't mean it didn't exist.

True, but if it's an important part of who the character is, it wouldn't kill the writers to give us that background. When Danny suddenly started shouting things in Russian, we got an immediate explanation.

There are just a lot of reasons for a woman to know and be good at martially arts kind of stuff, especially one career military, even if she is more of a desk jockey.

Then it shouldn't be too hard for the writers to mention one. We heard about Lori and her love for P.E. class every other episode.
Edited Date: 2012-11-21 12:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-11-20 07:48 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com
They didn't actually say "loses" one of their own. They just said "one of their own gets caught in the crossfire." In this case that could apply to Kono who got caught up in the hostage-taking.

Date: 2012-11-21 12:29 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com
They didn't actually say "loses" one of their own. They just said "one of their own gets caught in the crossfire."

Yes, I know. That's why I didn't use quotation marks. I was lumping in the intent of this trailer with the other trailers where they pulled the same shenanigans. They showed the bad guys barging in with guns, Kono with her hands up while we heard all about one of their own getting caught in the crossfire (clearly linking the word "crossfire" to the guys with guns), then Doris crying, all of which was meant to imply that one of the Core Four was going down, either Kono in the raid or Steve trying to save her. Instead (to no one's surprise) it was a random HPD officer.

Whoever edits the H50 trailers does that a lot. In fact, poor random HPD officer was the fourth or fifth peripheral character to die after the trailer heavily implied something bad would happen to a member of the Core Four instead. And that doesn't include the carefully edited trailer implying the fake tsunami was real.

So, yes, I am totally on to the editing hijinks and am not falling for it.

Date: 2012-11-21 07:24 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] and-ed.livejournal.com
It WAS like a checklist. And oh god, you are sooooo right about the preview teasers...creatively edited clips and tense music equals...bullshit. Nice try, Show, but we're not buying anymore.

But I WAS worried about Toast when they said death of a hacker - so relieved it wasn't him.

Date: 2012-11-25 08:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] bookwurm.livejournal.com
I'm finally getting caught up on episodes! (I'm also watching in order but commenting in reverse because I just finished Ohuna but needed a little while to process the previous one.)

I'm glad that Steve and Doris finally told Mary that her mother is still alive. Judging by Doris' reaction to Mary, either Mary gave the emotional reaction Doris wanted from Steve or Doris is finally figuring out how her "death" affected her family (or Mary was always Doris' favorite). I'm betting on the first and/or third, but that's based on the firm belief that Doris is a Grade-A schmuck.

I loved watching Kono take down the bad guy. More team interaction would have been nice, but it was very cool to have a little Kono focus and BAMFery. Also, Chin did a great job making his feelings obvious and understated at the same time.

Date: 2012-11-25 08:46 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com
I'm betting on the first and/or third, but that's based on the firm belief that Doris is a Grade-A schmuck.

I'm leaning toward the first. To me, Doris is all about Doris. Ever since she came out of hiding, Doris has been looking for someone to give her a trophy for her sacrifice in leaving her family. Steve didn't give her one. Neither did Danny. So Doris figures she's got another shot with Mary. But then Mary didn't want to see her, so Doris decided to hunt her down instead. At the end, Mary shows up and cries all over Doris, and Doris finally gets the reaction she's been looking for since she came back. I doubt that will make her any less of a pill in future episodes.

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