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the_other_sandy ([personal profile] the_other_sandy) wrote2009-02-05 09:09 pm
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SPN Ep: Sex and Violence

Go on. Ask me how much I loved the Stargate SG-1 episode "Hathor."

I'm going to admit straight up front that this episode hit one of my major squicks, namely characters thinking with their hormones and not their upstairs brains. I know it's not the boys' fault and they were basically poisoned, but nobody said squicks were rational and this is a huge one for me. I'm just glad that the Siren didn't pit Sam and Dean against each other for the bulk of the episode like the Trickster did in "Tall Tales."

There was also a callback to "Asylum" with a supernatural creature getting into the boys' heads and forcing them to admit some unpleasant truths (although in "Asylum," it was only Sam that got whammied). Dean desperately needs to be needed, both in general and by Sam specifically. And Dean is right, the Sam he knew is gone, not because of any destiny or demon blood crap, but because he grew up. Sam still needs Dean (his behavior after Dean's death proves that), but not in the same way or to the same extent that he did as a child. Sam is rebelling and trying to cut the apron strings to become an equal adult to his brother, but Dean is holding onto those strings so tightly Sam can't do that because Dean is holding him back. Because Dean needs to be the parent, the guy in charge, as well as the big brother. And just like in "Asylum," Sam tried to reach out and smooth things over with Dean afterward, while Dean gave lip service to everything being cool between them yet clearly not forgiving him. And once again we go on hiatus with this glaring rift between them.

Fortunately, I wasn't squicked by everything in this episode (there wasn't a single second of "Hathor" that didn't make me cringe). Bobby's phone bank of fake government agencies was awesome, as was Bobby's knife-throwing at the end. I also liked Dr. Cara Roberts as a love interest for Sam. Why are the one-off love interests such perfect matches for Sam (Sarah, Madison, Cara), while Ruby is so...so...meh? I think I've liked every single woman Sam has ever hooked up with except for her.

Even if I did wish that either Sam or Cara had remembered to close the blinds to her office before going at it. I imagine the rest of the E.R. got quite the show.

P.S. -- Dean? Poisoning by Siren is only one of the many, many ways that overindulging in alcohol can get you in trouble. You might want to look into acquiring some new coping skills.

[identity profile] oxbastetxo.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I still need to see the end of this ep.

I just wanted to comment about Hathor...*giggles*

I..umm..initiated the whole "debriefing" thread that went around after that ep came out. ;-)

*giggles*

I still can't see that ep and Daniel telling Hammond and telling him that Hathor needed to "debrief" them without commenting. "Oh, yeah. Somebody is going to get 'debriefed'."

*giggles*

I'm awful!

Edit: It would help if I spell check before I post. Sorry!
Edited 2009-02-06 12:15 (UTC)

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I wish I could find something to giggle about in that episode. I just cringe with embarrassment on behalf of everyone involved on the very rare occasions that I watch it.

[identity profile] un-conscience.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
As always, your insight into the brothers Winchester and their needs is awesome.

Yeah, I had some squick for this episode, too.

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

I was beginning to think I was the only person who wasn't thrilled with this episode.

[identity profile] andromakhe001.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
There is nothing grown up about sneaking around and lying. So I'm not seeing how Sam's actions are showing he's grown up.

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sam is trying to establish his independence as an adult. Yes, he's going out and doing things on his own without Dean's permission or approval, but Sam is 26; he doesn't need Dean's permission or approval, but Dean is still trying to maintain that parenting role to his little brother he's had since he was 4 and have some control over Sam, which Sam is chafing at like mad.

Sam and Dean have already talked about Sam using his powers to defeat Lilith and Sam knows that Dean is totally against it, so at this point he's just trying to avoid constantly provoking confrontations with the person he lives with 24/7 that end with him getting punched in the face repeatedly. I can't really say I blame him.

[identity profile] etoile444.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
yeh, I agree. Sam can't afford to be honest about his Lillith plans because Dean punches him, says he'll hunt him, and in general shows massive disapproval!

Still, Sam's show of independence was cruel.

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Still, Sam's show of independence was cruel.

That's a rebelling teenager for you--always trying to show how much pain they're in by making other people feel it.