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the_other_sandy ([personal profile] the_other_sandy) wrote2011-05-16 10:47 pm
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H50 Ep: Oia'i'o

Yikes! Where do I start?

The show is called Hawaii Five-0, so it's not like Five-0 is going to be permanently disbanded. Steve is the main character, so it's not like he won't be cleared. Scott Caan has a contract for next season, so it's not like Danny is going to go back to Jersey. So why am I so nervous?

For one thing, I don't know how they're going to clear Kono. She (and the rest of Five-0) really did steal the money from the asset forfeiture locker. That's illegal no matter how you slice it.

For another thing, I don't know how Danny and Rachel's relationship is going to play out. I just don't see it working out any better the second time around. Rachel hasn't even divorced Stan yet, and Danny has already missed the flight he promised to make because he was doing cop stuff. That's got to remind Rachel of one of the reasons she divorced him in the first place.

Will she leave Hawaii permanently with Grace, forcing Danny to do something he doesn't want to do (lose Five-0 and his ohana, or lose Rachel, Grace, and the new baby) again, or will she be back? I don't want Rachel (and/or Grace) to die, but I can't see watching her and Danny start over with a new baby either. And I definitely don't want to see what Danny would be like if he couldn't see Grace regularly. Ugh. There are just so many ways this could go wrong, and I like Daddy!Danno just the way he is.

You know what's really bothering me about the Wo Fat storyline? That he seems to be doing so much of his shooting and bombing himself. He can afford to hire flunkies to do his dirty work for him and prevent any evidence from implicating him. I find it very hard to believe that no one has ever been able to make a case against him when he's so hands on with his criminal activities.

I'm pretty sure Chin went back to HPD so he could work on clearing Steve from that angle. He just can't let anyone know or he won't be able to stay involved in the case. And Lieutenant Kelly now outranks Danny.

The one thing I want to see more than anything next season is for Wo Fat to deeply regret not targeting Danny. I have a feeling Danny is going to be on a mission until all this gets cleared up. And if he does clear everything up? Danny is going to be Wo Fat's new special friend, right up there with Steve. Which again brings up mixed feelings about Rachel and Grace. I don't want Wo Fat to go after them (and there's no way he won't if Danny annoys him enough), but I don't want them packed off to the mainland for their own safety either.

Is it fall yet?

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2011-05-18 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
He loses a lot of points with me for going as far as he has while she was still married and (supposedly) trying to work things out with Stan.

That's a big 'supposedly.' Rachel specifically said the reconciliation trip was Stan's idea and that she'd been looking for an excuse to bail. That seems to be a lifelong trend with her.

He loses more points for telling Rachel that he'll ditch Five-o for her, when he knows that they're in the middle of an insane situation that's getting worse by the minute.

Danny is a caretaker personality. When things go to hell for the people in his life, he feels compelled to fix it. Things went to hell for the most important people in his life almost simultaneously, and fixing it required being in two places at once. He managed to juggle both crises pretty well until he had to choose between staying in or leaving Hawaii. And at the time he told Rachel he would leave with her, (a) he had just found out she was pregnant with his child, and (b) the warrant hadn't been issued for Steve's arrest yet. Things did not get epically insane until the next day.

rather than thinking that she's a manipulative minx who's trying to get him away from the task force

That reminds me of my crack-laden theory that there's more going on than just Rachel leaving Stan. Rachel was so shaky when she dragged Danny out to Sand Island that I honestly thought Wo Fat's people had captured her and were using her to lure Danny out there for some reason. As freaked out as she seemed and as big a hurry as she was in to get to Jersey, I think she might be running from something bigger than a failed marriage. Or I could be reading too much into it.

A lot of this episode felt rushed

Every episode feels rushed to me. It's part of the show's style. I just let the ridiculous cases and plot holes wash over me while I wait for the next Steve/Danny scene.

[identity profile] bookwurm.livejournal.com 2011-05-19 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's a big 'supposedly.'

True, but it sounds like she's been telling Stan that she's trying to work things out, or at the very least, not telling him that she's sure enough things are over to be starting up her relationship with Danny again.

I get that Danny wanted to fix things for Rachel, especially once she told him that she was pregnant. However, he already knew that someone was trying to frame Steve -- I'm pretty sure that they found out Steve's prints were all over Leah's house before Danny went to Sand Island -- and that Steve was planning to break into the governor's residence that night. The feces may not have hit the air circulation unit yet, but it should have been painfully obvious that a "SPLAT" was in the near future.

I understand that Danny was blind-sided by a bunch of stuff this episode, and he was trying to do right by all of his family. However, because he couldn't take the time to think, he ended up making things a lot worse for everyone. I dunno, maybe he was trying too hard not to put his job before his family again? (Sorry, I'm thinking out some of this as I type because I really like most of the characters and want to put their actions in a better light, but mostly I want to just shake some sense into all of them right now. Darn it, I don't want to spend the season break being grumpy with these guys!)

Every episode feels rushed to me.

For me, it wasn't so much the pace of this episode specifically as the setting up Subplot A in one episode and ignoring it, setting up Subplot B a couple of episodes later and ignoring it, setting up Subplot C a little later yet and ignoring it, and so on. Then, in the season finale, they pile on every loose end from the entire fricking season.

I just let the ridiculous cases and plot holes wash over me while I wait for the next Steve/Danny scene.

Good point -- we're not exactly watching it for the plot. ;> Sorry if I'm over-analyzing. Like I said, I like the characters, and I do like the show. The last two episodes were just really frustrating for me because they would have been epic bromance material if it hadn't been for the Rachel/Danny stuff. That hug at the end of ep.23 could have completely eclipsed the heart-hands scene as fic-fodder if people weren't trying to reconcile it with Rachel and Danny getting back together. Sigh.


In other people's news, I don't know if you've seen [livejournal.com profile] zarah5's No Place Left to Run (http://zarah5.livejournal.com/72984.html) yet, but it's one of the better follow-ups I've read so far. She does a pretty good take on both Rachel's and Danny's thoughts.

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2011-05-20 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Stan is the one trying to work things out and Rachel is just taking the path of least resistance. I agree she should have just flat out told Stan she wasn't interested in saving the marriage.

Danny didn't know Steve planned to break into the governor's mansion that night. He thought he'd successfully talked Steve into staying home and thinking things through so they could attack the case the smart way in the morning. Granted, Danny should have known better (has he met Steve?), but he was distracted by trying to juggle two crises at once.

Everybody in the episode did some pretty stupid things, but Danny is the only one getting demonized because he was the only one whose stupid knocked everyone's slash goggles askew. Personally I find it best not to confuse what I see through my slash goggles with canon. Steve and Danny will live happily ever after in my head even if they both get married (to other people) and have a bazillion children on screen. As long as the bromance is there, I'm good. And yes, I'm disappointed that the Danny/Rachel stuff on screen now means that everyone is going to spend the summer writing "fix-its" instead of schmoopy slash fic.

For me, it wasn't so much the pace of this episode specifically as the setting up Subplot A in one episode and ignoring it, setting up Subplot B a couple of episodes later and ignoring it, setting up Subplot C a little later yet and ignoring it, and so on.

Ah. I've spent 6 years getting broken in by Supernatural, so I'm used to that by now.

Sorry if I'm over-analyzing.

We're catalogers. That's what we do. ;-)

[identity profile] bookwurm.livejournal.com 2011-05-23 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a good point about Danny being distracted enough by the Rachel crisis to think he might have convinced Steve not to do anything too insanely rash. Admittedly, Steve doesn't seem to believe that anything could ever be too insanely rash, but Rachel was being a pretty big distraction.

I've seen a few good "fix-its" and a few more good follow-ups that don't try to fix things, and lots of mediocre waily-waily stuff. I'm ready for more good schmoopy slash, too. Can writers say, "This is pretty much canon, except I'm ignoring these episodes," or does that make it officially AU? (Well, ok, I'm sure fan-fic writers can say whatever they want. Which is more accepted though?)

We're catalogers. That's what we do.

[grin] Good point!

[identity profile] the-other-sandy.livejournal.com 2011-05-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen a couple of good episode codas that continue on from the finale, but I've also seen way too many 'Danny has to grovel for Steve's forgiveness for being selfish enough to want to follow his daughter back to the mainland' stories. And too many fix-its came out all at once (as you might expect), so I burned out on them after a few days.

Fortunately, I have some older long stories on my e-reader that I haven't had time to get to. I'll be at a con this weekend, so I plan to bring my e-reader with me to wallow in fic in my oddly spaced free time.